To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. It's even implied earlier when Gohan gets angry at Old Kai when the ritual takes too long and he accidentally powers up. Ultimate Gohanâs Super Power! You all have your facts wrong. He doesn't transform at all, he just simply raises his power above Z-Fighters tier and he is already regarded as a threat. I'm sure the creators thought about this. Follow 793. This is toei land territory you are touching, an area where Z ssj3 Goku was somehow not weaker than ultimate gohan, where said gohan was stated to be much stronger in GT by the perfect files, and said gohan got mopped by goku, who got mopped by baby in an inferior form. Gohan obviously couldn't have since he was being clobbered further along when fighting buu and there's no need to worry about Earth from transforming since the planet at this point has NO PEOPLE on it to be harmed anymore so stop saying he can in DBZ since it's annoying. photo of *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* for fans of Teen Gohan. The Former Kai DID NOT SAY ANYTHING about him going Super Saiyan. He actually tried powering up, and was shaking the Supreme Kai planet. When he was with the old kai, i think that he dramatically increased his base power and gave him the ability to go into ultimate form. Mystic Gohan is about the same level of Kefla, which is the fusion of Kale and Caulifla, being Kale able to defeat Aniraza and to fight Goku SSB and Golden Freezer at the same time. I know none of us would compare DBZ to GT but Goku was kinda the same with SS4; Base -> SS - > SS3 and Base - > SS4. i remember that he didn't use it in the fight against Buu, but i don't remember anyone ever specifically saying that he couldn't. Arutimetto Gohan no Sūpā Pawā!! into this because Akria Toriyama(the creator of dragon ball/dbz) did not write G.T. SSJTyrone (talk) 03:59, January 15, 2015 (UTC). |Noun{| class="ts" Gohan gives it his all against fighters like Top and Dyspo in the Tournament of Power in Dragon Ball Super, but once again, Ultimate Gohan doesn't go Super Saiyan. So forgive me grammar police. GT is not canon. Reviews: 0. Goku had Base Form -> SS1,2,3 or Base Form -> SS4, PS. So he could go SS cuz he's a saiyan but his ultimate form required a different transformation. Stop listening to everything they say in the english version because they throw in extra words that they didn't say in the original manga or show. This is in the movie so it is now cannon. This Teen Gohan fotografia contains anime, banda desenhada, manga, desenhos animados, mangá, and quadrinhos. I dont know why he did transform into SSJ on DBGT. ! How Strong is Ultimate Gohan. His true power continues to grown, so by the time he fought Cell, his true power was way ahead of his SSJ form (but not quite enough to achieve SSJ2), which itself was way stronger than Frieza' saga SSJ form. In addition to that both states use the same power-up process as a trigger. so why is it that people keep saying that GT is stupid because he goes ssj in it? mystic gohan. A form essentially only accessible by gohan. GT was discredited by Dragonball onljne. They also could have done better on Dragon Ball GT.). Just watched it 10 mins ago. He would stay the same, his ki would just be consumed faster. im standing on that till my death bed vegeta cheated his way to ssj4 and come to find out its equal only 34% above his ssj2 form. Also, Mystic Gohan had none of the drawbacks the SSJ3 form's power came with. His power and strength increase like a Super Sayians would. Technically, he's already a Super Saiyan without transforming. if you watched to series then you would know that all sayians get more powerful as they get defeated thus thats why when his power was not enough to beat gotenks buu he got the powers to transform, He's always mystic. That being said, he has gained new "Mystic Powers" from the training with the Elder Kai. Duh. That why a lot of fans say GT contradicted dbz, because turning ssj would be a waist of time. Gohan didn't transform when he desperately needed it and that, plus the fact that the act of unleashing his full power is the same reflex as transforming into Super Saiyan now, AND that there was no mention of it in the manga like there was in the anime should leave no reason to believe that he actually can become a Super Saiyan anymore. Thats what I believe at least. Mystic Gohan is about the same level of Kefla, which is the fusion of Kale and Caulifla, being Kale able to defeat Aniraza and to fight Goku SSB and Golden Freezer at the same time. I like to think that SSJ forms are a way to achieve your true power. As we all know when Majin Buu absorbed SSJ3 Gotenks then gohan would go ssj form if he could but he could not transform because it was the limit of him and the ultimate form had the entire hidden energy of his body including his super saiyan forms. dedicated to all gohan mashabiki. If he were to transform, he would destroy the planet he is trying to protect. video. It is not a form, it is his full power. -UltimateSSJ1-. DOES THAT MEAN IF HE CHARGES UP HE'LL HAVE THE AURA OF SSJ 1-3? Ultimate Gohan Vs. The power of his SSJ and SSJ2, along with all the other the power that he never got a chance to unlock, was drawn out by Old Kai for him to use in his base form, as base form obviously doesn't hold the SSJ or SSJ2 power....in a way, SSJ power is like "locked power" within you, and once you "unlock it", you transform into an SSJ...afterwards, it can be "locked" and "unlocked" at will, and it can also grow in power...Gohan had this SSJ power, along with another level, SSJ2...and he also had a ton of power he still hadn't unlocked... Now, when Gohan is in base, his SSJ and SSJ2 power is not present. Okay now we are talking about Gohan he barley even trains. Go to every movie's page, and you'll see it: Sandubadear (talk) 21:47, April 1, 2013 (UTC), ^ Had you read your own link you sent and not boost your ego with "You're wrong and I'm right" You wouldn't look like an ass right now. Most people that have seen Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Kai would know that it was anger that used to releash his power. This "Mystic Power" is also known as Gohan's hidden power. 1 Description 2 Introduction 3 Gohan 4 Boruto 5 Pre Battle 6 Battle The sons of Animes two biggest legends clash in a battle of Epicproportions! Ultimate>>>>Super Saiyan The fact is had Gohan gone Ssj3 WHILE Mystic he would have had a massive powerup. So let me tell you Gohanâs mystic form is stronger and better than Gokuâs Super Saiyan 3. What we know for a fact is that for Gohan to release his true power he has to go super saiyan, but instead of going super saiyan Gohan's true power is revealed, thus turning Gohan's super saiyan form into a simple powerup. Goku achieved this in the Other World where he trained for 7 years. Nevertheless, this proves that Mystic Gohan is better than SSJ2 Teen Gohan>SSJ2 Gohan because he can fight without having to maintain a transformation because all of his power is in his base state. And the "Mystic/Ultimate Gohan" is not a trnasformation, it is a power-up to Gohan's base form. Mystic Gohan>SSJ2 Teen/Adult Gohan The simple answer in regards to why Mystic/Ultimate Gohan didn't ⦠He was getting pummeled to pieces. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! After that, Kibito took Gohan to Earth. but ssj2 saps a lot out of u. gohan ( ultimate) was even powerful than ssj2 gohan and there is no point in becoming ssj2 where ur body uses up more energy rather than being more powerful inn ur base form which in this case is ultimate gohan. False Super Saiyan Jake (talk) 19:14, September 19, 2013 (UTC), After the Elder Kai unlocks Gohan's abilities he says just do that SS thing you do. When Ultimate/Mystic Gohan (I've seen this form called both, for the rest of this thread, I'll just be referring to it as Mystic) first arrives on the scene to face Buu, I think it's an amazing moment. Furthermore, in the manga, the only cannon source of Dragonball Z statements, that whole "I wonder if I can become Super Saiyan" comment does not actually happen. |- He fought Super Buu and thought he could beat him but the wonder starts when Super Buu absborbs SSJ3 Gotenks along with Piccolo, inspite of sensing Buu's rapidly increased ki, Gohan didn't think to transform but he knew that his energy was less than Buu's energy. i dunno, just a thought. What's important is that at this point buu is kicking gohan's butt left and right at high speed. It should also be noted that in episode 88 it is somewhat implied by Piccolo that Gohan has not been using the power Old Kaiōshin unlocked (at least only in the Dragon Ball Super anime) ever since after his fight with Super Buu. The bigger the circle, the closer to full power. And people might be wondering why he didn't transform against Buutenks is because his friends and his brother were inside of him, all he wanted to do was stall until the fusion wore off. old kai did the ritual to unlock gohan's MYSTIC aka HIDDEN powers it means he was at a point he can go no further. fotografia. While this state must be maintained by steady, regular training, while Gohan has access to it, he can tap into its power by powering up just as he would to go Super Saiyan. gohan. Anime & Manga Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for anime and manga fans. Do studs in wooden buildings eventually get replaced as they lose their structural capacity? dedicated to all Teen Gohan fans. hes ultimate meaning: |- bức ảnh of *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* for những ngÆ°á»i hâm má» of Gohan. The Ultimate Form can be accessed at any time. Kid Buu Who wins!!!!! Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. Side Note: PLEASE STOP QUOTING WHAT THEY SAID FROM THE ENGLISH VERSION. Being or happening at the end of a process; final: "their ultimate aim was to force his resignation". Ultimate Gohan can go super saiyan it just that when he powers up without turning super saiyan his strength surpasses Gotenks so if he did it would be like him going super saiyan 4 almost within power but not appearence. The only full Saiyans can go SSJ3 is just bs. Gohan. /\ The movie isn't canon. No ultimate Gohan is when gohan reaches his fathers goal back when they were training for cell when he can be comfortable in ssj2 thats all Frankly, Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is just as strong as SSJ3. |- Ultimate Gohan can't go super saiyan and there would be no point. This is reiterated yet again as folks mentioned already when they're discussing fusion. so even in downfall he's still #2 at least!) Gohan got so angry he tapped into all his power fighting cell:ALL his base power x ssj x ssj2. Current Gohan has 3 weeks of prep. That's what really happened. added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. This also helps because he doesn't have to transform into a different form that slowly drains his ki...he has access to all of his power "naturally" in his base form (because, obviously, being in base form doesn't eat up ki, because it's his "natural" form), so he doesn't have to worry about losing ki unless he actually uses it in battle, unlike, say, Goku, who, upon becoming an SSJ3, rapidly loses ki due to the strain of the transformation. No, it isn't. Ultimate Gohan. It's at the end however, when the Saiyan's line up to give Goku the power to go Super Saiyan God, that Gohan is shown in Super Saiyan for a moment. final - last - terminal - utmost - extreme - eventual, so if he turned ssj1 or 2 he'd go down in power level. This… And This… Are completely different. Considering they took the effort to do so where in any other movie or series that wasn't cannon they didn't care, that's just one more point to add to the "he can't do it" side. Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who was equal to Kid Buu minus the regeneration. I won't consider GT here because that series was thought totally different in many parts which doesn't share the same informations with Z. (Anyone who thinks Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is a fucking idiot.) dedicated to all Teen Gohan fans Both the movie and GT were made by Toei, not Toriyama. He told Goku that he did not need to go Super Saiyan while using the earrings because the earrings had all the power they needed because Gohan was slacking and couldn't beat Majin Buu (Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed). gohan. Thats why I rewatched all of DBZ and Kai in Japanese for all my answers lol, ...before he went to fuse with Gohan (Vegeta). Gohan was young, while Goku had extreme experience like the Spirit Bomb, Instant Transmission, Instant Kamehameha etc. Thanks to BattleBoy and SSKT for Avatar and Banner. I'm a big fan of DBZ and I recently just finished watching it again. | style="height: 10px;"| One of the best moments in the manga/anime. YÅ«suke Watanabe (screenplay)Akira Toriyama (original series author). Bommstick: And that means banging a chic and popping one out! Is there a difference between Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Kai and Dragon Ball Z Kai? gohan. Next time... on Dragon Ball Z...(I miss the sound of that. In episode 88, Toei seems to distinguish Gohan's base form and the power Old Kaiōshin unlocked by adding a "hair bang" while he was using the the power Old Kaiōshin unlocked. Then SSJ2= x4. Although originally introduced as a mild-mannered and easily scared child, Gohan harbors an immense, limitless potential that surpasses that of his father. It's simple really. Goku and Vegeta didn't need what Old Kai gave Gohan because their training and experience gives them control of their full base already. Finally I submit to you that when dende heals gohan, he's just too dumb to try it. Gohan never goes into ultimate form. Which “Highlander” movie features a scene where a main character is waiting to be executed? dedicated to all Gohan í¬ He did not transform because he did not expect Super Buu to have the ability to absorb people and their energy. Gohan lost the eyes. Now as far as DBZ cannon goes, that is how it is, that's just fact. And if he could then the forms would have been a "power down" for him. super buu. He was able defeat super buu with his "base" form which is stronger than or almost as strong as ssj3 goku. We are not even sure if he could transform into a Super Saiyan because we didn't see him to do so. Essentially, his power's tapped out. This was puzzling for some fans during the Buu Saga, but Dragon Ball Super finally offers an explanation when Goku simply asks Gohan why he doesn't go Super Saiyan. This is what Goku says in the manga after Gohan powers up with his new found powers (Tankōbon Volume 41, chapter 496): Son Goku: “It re-really is incredible… It’s super-duper…! super saiyan. ! That's why Gohan was so much stronger as ssj2 fighting cell vs him going ssj2 at the world tournament. Did Vegeta SSJ2 against Beerus surpassed Gohan's mystic form? unless he went ssj3! Gohan can go ssj in gt because as time goes on and he slacks off, more and more of his power goes dormant. Make sense now?? if he had attained SSJ3 then his ultimate for would essentially give him all the power of SSJ3 without the harmful side effects. If you consider GT canon, he does later go Super Saiyan against some later enemies. Gohan is shown going super saiyan in Dragonball BoG so he can. Remember back in the Frieza Saga when Guru "unlocked" Gohan's potential. If transforming into an SSJ was going to win him the fight, he would of done so. It is his power maxed out in his base form. "The global phenomenon Dragon Ball is being made into a movie using Toei Animationâs latest technology, consistently realized as a Toriyama work, with the original author Akira Toriyama himself deeply involved from the script stage for the first time. " meaning that he cant tap the next level of power becuase there is no next level. Gohan can go SSJ3, but he can't attain it on Earth. If Old Kai had the power to unlock Gohan's ssj power without him having to transform he would've done the same for Goku and Vegeta, so they didn't have to waste energy transforming. 1 Match Dialogues 1.1 Sparking 1.2 Team Dialogues 1.3 Match Reset 1.4 Shenron 2 Miscellaneous Dialogues 2.1 Character Selection 2.2 Intro 2.3 Victory 2.4 Defeat 2.5 Results Screen 3 Navigation An asterisk (*) means there's two different lines associated with that character. | style="padding-right: 5px; vertical-align: top;"|Synonyms{| class="ts" also when they power up to the form their Super Saiyan Aura is more glowing like than Trunks and Goten were.Nikon23 05:53, December 4, 2012 (UTC), and Akira Toriyama must considers Dragon Ball GT canon to the anime because he says that the upcoming movie Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods takes place between Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT in the lost decade in other words between Dragon Ball Magna Chapter 517 and 518, regardless of what most fan think of GT.Nikon23 05:57, December 4, 2012 (UTC). The obvious answer is because he couldn't. dragonball z. animê. Mystic Gohan should win: even tho Janemba is stronger than SS3 Goku, Hoku can syill hould his own against Janemba; M. Gohan is considerable stronger than Super Buu, and Goku said hat he nor Vegeta had possibilities against S. Buu. Gohan IS a Super Saiyan, but his apperance does not change. why do you think goku made him stay in super mode during the cell games? Close. *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. gohan was a full powered ssj meaning that his body would consume same energy as it did in his base form as in full powered ssj form. The simple answer in regards to why Mystic/Ultimate Gohan didn't transform into a SSJ is because he no longer can. All that Old Kai did was release the sleeping power inside Gohan and give him access to it while he is in base form. buu. Ultimate Gohan (DBS) vs Hit Badrimoine2019. Vegetto is obviously first, but Ultimate Gohan is confirmed to be stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, whom is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. When Old Kai released all of Gohan's hidden potential, Super Saiyan no longer had much power to temporarly give Gohan. The only problem with Kid Buu is killing him. SSJ3 Goku And SSJ2 Vegeta VS Mystic (Ultimate) Gohan. Forum Posts. Old Kai released Gohan's power. Why do multiple SNES games share the same title screen music? Casual. That Super-Whatever-Thing is depraved." Go ask Toriyama and stop babbling about!He's the only one that can answer this! Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Community. mystic gohan is assumed to above vegeta, but in gt gohan is below vegeta apprently. Add interesting content and ... mystic gohan. So why didn't Gohan simply transform into a SSJ as Mystic Gohan during his fight with Super Buu? re: SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan He didn't want to destroy his brothers body, which made it a lot harder. this is an era where toei gave no fucks about power creep. Also, the power he never unlocked is also, obviously, not present. dragonball z. anime. (Swiss German). DragonBallZ is not the kind of series where character's hold back so unreasonably, and whenever they do hold back it's blatantly explained. So in GT when Gohan turns super saiyan and he goes into the form of super saiyan it goes against what actually happened in DBZ. The Elder Kai said the training was complete. gohan. I heard about the "bang" , and i knew it was something related to the hair, but since i'm not from an english speaking country i dont know exactly what it is. If Gohan could go SSJ, he would've done so...those saying "he never needed it" are dead wrong...Gotenks-Buu anyone? added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. You all saw what resulted from skipping training after the Cell Games; Gohan's strength diminishing and becoming more dormant. foto of *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* for fans of Teen Gohan. Gohan cannot go Super Saiyan after getting Mystic/Ultimate form (though it's not even really a form as much as a full power). So Gohan has 2 options like kid goku did. Why would Toriyama introduce Ssj3 only to humiliate it with Mystic? and in gt he was able to go ssj becuase he had lost some of his power over time due to being a "normal person" so he could tap into more power through transforming. /\ No, you're wrong. Is there any physical difference between Gohan in base form and Gohan in mystic form? First, I would like to say that the power level doesn't matter in the series while the major aspects are to emphasise the Saiyans. Even if there is a slight change in his physical appearance it is unfortunately not noted down by anyone. Do the naysayers finally get it? DOES THAT MEAN HES AT MAX POWER? Maybe his Hidden Potential is something (for some reason) from his Human half, so it unlocks his human powers and locks away some of the saiyan stuff. Dance of Venus (and variations) in TikZ/PGF. No ultimate Gohan is when gohan reaches his fathers goal back when they were training for cell when he can be comfortable in ssj2 thats all Frankly, Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is just as strong as SSJ3. Therefore DBZ BOG Gohan was stronger than "Ultimate" Gohan who fought Super Buu. Taking these into account and the fact that there's nothing..ever..contradicting gohan being powered up by transforming further into ssj. Sorry but they do change the words around. super buu. We can use Bills as an example. super saiyan. Thus, his base power exceeded the power he had previously shown as a Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2, and thus at the time he had no need to go Super Saiyan. I am never wrong. |}. Some people already mentioned this: the reason he didn't go ssj against Buutenks is because with so much more base power it takes him so much more effort to bring the ssj form to the surface. Recently of course as everyone knows, a new chapter (so to speak) of the cannon has been added: The new movie 'DragonBallZ Battle of Gods'. Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu | Full Fight | HD. Then there's a break and once the fighting resumes things of course change. After that, well that's just the end of DragonBallZ because GT is not a thing. Its like having to relearn it all over again, like he had trouble first turning ssj in the hyperbolic time chamber for the first time. mystic gohan. His base is Super Namek but he summon his Super Namek power when he needs it. Unfortunately DBGT, decided to add another transformation making Gohan's power up inconsistent. gohan. Goku could go Super Saiyan 3 in the Other World because he could put unlimited energy in his transformation. The fact of the matter is, that Mystic form takes Gohan to his ultimate limit, to a power further than any Super Saiyan form could give him (including 3, being stronger than SS3 Goku) while replacing the reflex to actually go Super Saiyan entirely. Dragon Ball Kai Episode 142 Air Date: 15 February 2015 ブウを圧倒！究極悟飯の超パワー！！ Bū o Attō! Old Kai can do the same thing, but on a much larger scale of course. Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccoloin anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion⦠On Dragon Ball - General, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Ssj3 Goku vs. ^ Wrong, the movie is canon. gohan. DBZ. He couldn't realise in that moment that he could transform into a SSJ or other forms because he was so busy fighting Super Buu. elder kia unlocked his power but never said it was a permanent transformation. or maybe people don't realize that while something like kaioken is a multiplier, ssj has more of an exponential or log curve. 100 (ultimate) + SSJ (x2)= 200, or doubled energy while in ultimate form, then another x2 for SSJ2 Ultimate to equal x4 ultimate. Gohan doesn't need SSJ3 anyway become the Old Kai unlocked more of his potential power. By the time gohan has any considerable time to himself he's already too damaged to do squat. So Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is the power he had at the time (SSJ2) completely unlocked in his base form. Arutimetto Gohan no SÅ«pÄ PawÄ!! During the world tournament he wasnt angry so he wasn't tapping into all his base power. | style="height: 10px;"| Old Kai never said that there was a form like that. buu. Its power eclipses that of his Super Saiyan forms by a significant margin, and in this state, Gohan is often known as Mystic Gohan or Ultimate Gohan. site design / logo © 2020 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under cc by-sa. When Gohan asks Old Kai how to use Mystic form, Old Kai tells him to "Just become a Super Saiyan, and believe." dedicated to all Gohan mashabiki. He just does not, because he does not have the required energy to power up. |- 3. gohan gets drunk off an apple. In this movie, while Gohan does not go Super Saiyan during his fights, the form does show up near the end with him but before that I do want to make a point: at one step of editing, Gohan does go Super Saiyan all througout the movie BUT they actually took the effort to edit each scene with him doing so, so that he would simply go full power when fighting. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Why can't Ultimate Gohan go ssj?]]. 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